the root of all evil?

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Posted by Nick Spencer Fri, 13/01/2006 - 3:30pm :: People | TV | more by Nick Spencer

‘The Root of All Evil?’, Richard Dawkins’ two-part programme on religion, the first of which was broadcast by Channel 4 last Monday, was entertaining stuff. Sadly, it was for the wrong reasons.

You don’t have to be professor for the public understanding of science at Oxford to have known what was coming. Britain’s best-known atheist is renowned for his persistent trivialisation of religion and his ability to demolish a straw man in seconds. Viewers could not have been surprised to see him interview cartoon opponents or wheel out the same stale, old criticisms.

So familiar were those criticisms, that at one point the programme felt more like a game of atheist bingo than a serious critique of contemporary religion. ‘Extremist’: check. ‘Delusion’: check. ‘Intolerant’: check. ‘Superstitious’: check. ‘Irrational’: HOUSE! The edge of any critique is blunted if used too carelessly or too often and, regrettably, we have heard these well-worn accusations year after year after year. The real entertainment came in guessing which word would pop up next.

This is a shame because, beneath the rhetoric and polemic, the programme touched on some serious questions. Doesn’t religion, by its very nature, segregate - something we can ill-afford in a globalising world? Don’t religious ideologies simply exacerbate political conflicts? How does the nature of religious evidence compare to that used in the natural sciences? How do you square the apparent wastefulness of the evolutionary process with a God of love?

Religions desperately need criticism. As the Church has learnt – time and again – Christianity drifts furthest from its moorings when it suppresses questions and crushes criticism. It needs critical partners with which to dialogue, to keep it fresh and faithful to Christ. As the reformers recognised, a reformed church is a church always reforming.

Dawkins’ inability to be a constructive partner in critical dialogue reflects the increasing nervousness of many secularists. Religion never did die a natural death and appears to be growing again, sometimes in unpleasantly militant forms.

Dawkins’ tone may, to be fair, change next week when he talks to more sophisticated religious advocates. Nevertheless, if his critique continues to disappoint, it should not leave Christians feeling smug, still less allow them to slip into intellectual laziness or stop them from engaging with other, more nuanced critics. If we are to ‘hold on to the good’, as it says in 1 Thessalonians 5.21, it is only because we have tested everything beforehand.

Nick Spencer

The second programme - 'The Virus of Faith' - is on Monday 16th January, on Channel 4, at 8pm.

additional resources

Christians in Science have some stimulating responses to Dawkins at their site, including dialogue between Dawkins and Michael Poole, and a collection of pieces by Alister McGrath. Visit www.cis.org.uk.

A summary of the programme can be found at www.channel4.com.

Prof Dawkins does not have an official website, but recommends John Catalano's unofficial portal, which, he suggests, does everything he could do and more... at www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins.

Read Nick Pollard's interview with Prof Dawkins in Third Way (1995), at www.thirdway.org.uk.

Wikipedia's entry for Richard Dawkins is at en.wikipedia.org.

Very Imformative
Posted by  Anonymous on Sat, 14/01/2006 - 4:04pm.
As a once Jehovah's Witness that has now decided to think for myself I welcome programmes like this. My only wish is that the people that come to my door step trying to convert me would listen to my arguments with the same open mind that I did theirs for so long
Dawkins is a man with little t
Posted by  Anonymous on Thu, 26/01/2006 - 12:25pm.
Dawkins is a man with little theological knowledge who has genuinely no idea that he will one day stand before God and justify his superficial and ignorant views to him. What a childish rant his programme "roots..." was. Most of my Christian friends found it hilarious because of its shameless unobjectivity and total ignorance. (Some of them scientists!) But it isn't funny really because this fool influences people just because he has Professor in front of his name and because people want to hear this stuff. "Why doesn't God just forgive us?" he asks. Well Professor, because of a little thing called justice... Let's not kid ourselves, the true reason for the hatred of Christianity lies the fear of this justice.
Dawkin's did show the non-fun
Posted by  Anonymous on Mon, 16/01/2006 - 11:12pm.
Dawkin's did show the non-fundementalist religionists. I remeber seeing the catholics holding a vigil. Dawkins said that religion is wrong even its mild forms in that faith is "unthinking" and therefore dangerous.

Dawkins covered religion's effect on politics. He talked about how science uses evidence to come to a conclusion. I don't know what you mean by religious evidence. Evidence is Evidence. Are you are talking about evidence that religion is correct? The whole point of religion is that you don't need evidence. Also, nature is nature. It does not care that some humans perfer God's love to evolution's waste. How is that an important question?

How much the Church drifts from Christianity or Jesus is irrelevant because both are wrong and harmful to society. You may think that Dawkins' criticisms are not constructive but that is probabily because he does not accept your assumptions: God exists.
Root of All Evil, Part 2
Posted by  sallibuc on Tue, 17/01/2006 - 12:48am.
I have now watched both of Richard Dawkins' programs, Religion: Root of All Evil on TV over the past two weeks. What did I discover? I can now say that it is the most lopsided documentary I have ever seen! In it, he makes claims against all Judea-Christian religions and claims for evolution, both without any shred of scientific rigor or evidence. For those who do not know who Richard Dawkins is, he is the distinguished Charles Simonyi Professor of the Public Understanding of Science from the University of Oxford, one of the world's leading institutions where learning is supposed to be subjected to a rigorous process. Instead, I found the approaches he chose to adopt to 'prove' a point to be rather disappointing...

Sallibuc - a simple person trying to put on God's wisdom
~ Reflections on Life and Spirituality
Personal attacks on Richard D
Posted by  Anonymous on Wed, 18/01/2006 - 12:57am.
Personal attacks on Richard Dawkins . . . is this the best you guys can come up with?

I have only seen the first programme. But what about his argument that we should not bring up our children to accept things 'on faith' and 'without question'. What about the fact that a significant % of Americans think the world is only a few thousand years old? Isn't this worrying?

If you are of one 'faith' does this mean that everyone else of other faiths is wrong? Come on!

You critisise Dawkins for coming up with no evidence (which isn't true . . . didn't you see the fossils?). You don't give any evidence yourselves and just rely on personal attacks. You can do better than this I am sure . . . .
Root of all evil
Posted by  Anonymous on Thu, 19/01/2006 - 12:13pm.
Though it is refreshing to see something on TV that doesn't tip-toe around the questions which atheists, agnostics & theists are all asking, I was ashamed to see the Dawkins has somewhat tarred all religious believers as fundamental extemeists, such as those featured on Ch4's 'The Root of all Evil'. Perhaps he would consider a televised debate with other important figures in the religious (etc.) world, so that viewers can decide for themselves, whether religion is, in fact, the root of all evil.
I am amazed...
Posted by  Anonymous on Sun, 22/01/2006 - 2:57pm.
that in this day and age, when information flows so freely via the internet, that there are still significant numbers of people who live by choice in the Dark Ages. The comment above me criticizes Dawkins for failing to rigorously make his point that religion is a waste of intellect. My question is, why does he have to make a point that something is not valid. Shouldn't the burden fall on the religious among us to prove their position?
I was a Christian for most of my youth, and I know what it feels like to be under the influence of the church. It is, sadly, merely a crutch for those who fail to grapple with the reality of the human condition. Much like a person addicted to drugs manages to rationalize their habit because it appears to satisfy their needs.
I think the best thing the church offers is a sense of community and a caring place to come fellowship with others. That I have no problem with. The need to feel love and acceptance is universal and not tied to one religion or denomination.
At the end of the day, our common humanity and the acceptance of each other will be all of our salvation.
Time Warp
Posted by  Anonymous on Sun, 22/01/2006 - 6:56pm.
Prof Dawkins seems to be in a time warp. He rolls out the old chestnuts but fails to convince. This is mainly because of his method.
It would not be difficult to say Science is the 'ROOT OF ALL EVIL'.
Start to programme with the 'A' bombing of Japan, follow with the doctors who experimented on concentration camp victims. Take a look at atheist philosophers and trace a connection between them and communism, nazism etc. Maybe comment on the 'morality' of millions spent on space programmes and Hey Presto! or should I say QED!
A Dodds
As a Christian, all I can say
Posted by  Anonymous on Tue, 24/01/2006 - 3:32pm.
As a Christian, all I can say to the Richard Dawkin's programme is more of the same please. Talk about effective evangelism, this high priest of scientism has done more to advance the legitimacy and siginicance of the gospel in contemporary culture than Billy Graham. Secularism is clearly redundant as a philosophy, and I have to say that its death-throws are just pure entertainment.
I loved Dawkins' programme. I
Posted by  Anonymous on Mon, 06/02/2006 - 9:41am.
I loved Dawkins' programme. I've read all his books, so am aware of the weight of his intellect.

The way it encourages a kind of childlike, slavish obedience is very negative. It teaches people to be satisfied with inadequate answers to profound questions. Thanks to science, we now have such an exciting grasp of the answer to such questions, it's blasphemy not to embrace them.

If you're told from the cradle that it's a virtue to believe in something in spite of the lack of evidence, that leaves you with nothing but faith. So there is nothing people of opposing faiths can do but disagree. And that is bound to cause confrontation.

There is the astonishing fact that in the USA not a single member of Congress will admit to being an atheist -- and they wouldn't be elected if they did. Yet if you look at the country's intellectual elite, especially the scientists, 90 per cent of them are atheists. that mismatch is a strange phenomenon in democracy.

A good intellectual case can be made that the existence of a supernatural being is improbable. And anyone intelligent enough to understand that can be persuaded faith is without foundation. Many atheists, in the fight to keep creationism out of schools, decide it's best to say that believing in God and evolution isn't incompatible. But I'm a boat-rocker -- I make the case that it's difficult to believe in God if you understand evolution.

I disagree with those who say without religion there would be no morality. If your only reason to be decent person is that you're frightened of a great CCTV in the sky watching your every move, it doesn't say much for you as a person. There is something ancient about the impulse to morality, a strong empathetic tendency in the human mind, with clear Darwinian roots. This genetic empathy came first -- religion climbed on the back of it.
Lots of men have committed ev
Posted by  Anonymous on Sat, 28/01/2006 - 2:02pm.
Lots of men have committed evil acts..maybe they are the root of all evil? Or, how about human beings? Maybe we should commit mass suicide.

My point..hate is the root of all evil. And every race, every type of person who hates will find any reason to practice it. Surely we're smart enough by now to figure something as small as that out. And maybe then we will finally stop attacking everyone who is different.

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